TLDR: Buy a mm caliper to measure your ratios dear lord never use pictures unless they're professionally taken, also if you're black, indian, asian etc. don't use Caucasian ratios.
It has come to my attention that a lot of P.O.C are measuring their ratios based of the Caucasian studies. Also, 99% of you are measuring your ratios based on smartphone selfies, Blasphemy.
First I want to address a common misconception that a smartphone using the back camera if sufficient, but in reality it's not. 99% of phones are equiped with Wide-Angle or Ultra-Wide(AKA the demons of portraiture). I'll list the most common phones using these lenses.
Apple: iPhone XR, iPhone 6(All variants), iPhone 7(All Variants), iPhone 8(All Variants), iPhone 11, iPhone 12(+mini), iPhone 13(+mini).
Google: Pixel 3(All Variants), Pixel 4a, Pixel 5(All Variants), Pixel 6.
All of the above phones are only equipped with a Wide-Angle Lens, or an Ultra-Wide Angle Lens. If you've used thses pictures to measure your ratios, they aren't accurate AT ALL.
Pretty much all of the 2019 and later iPhones and Pixels have a Telephoto Lens. Here's the list.
Apple: iPhone X, iPhone XS, iPhone XS Max, iPhone 11 Pro(+Pro Max), iPhone 12 Pro(+Pro Max), iPhone 13 Pro(+max).
Google: Pixel 6 Pro.
If you used the Telephoto Lens these phones than your ratios hold decent merit and are somewhat accurate, but I'm really against using smartphone photos for ratios.
I SHOULD'NT HAVE TO SPEAK ABOUT SELFIES.
So why are these lenses so bad for portraiture???
You are all fammiliar with Lens distortion cause by too close length + bad cam specs, but have you ever heard of
Radial Distortion???
There are 3 types of Radial Distortion, but only 2 are relevant to the topic (Barrel distortion and Pincushion distortion)
These types of distortions are practically impossbile to avoid with Wide-Angle & Ultra-Wide Angle Lenses. This why why every model photographer has 200MM Telephoto Lenses, because they have no distortion.
Alright, now I'm sure a lot of you are relieved to see how shit cameras are. Some people now wonder...What's the truth what do I look like.
Answer is....The Mirror. Yes, this is exactly what you look like. Now for "How Attractive am I?" is up to your self perception.
Part 2: Why P.O.C should'nt be using Caucasian ratios? I thought this was obvious...
The main reason why you can't use ratios for the other race is simply because they do not apply to you. Saying this, if you live in a Western County, it will benefit to have some of the key ratios for harmony(I will post them).
African, Asian,and Caucasian Facial Differences. Don't panic I'll summarize this soon.
Overall with such facial differences, different ratios must be used. So I used about 50 different Faces of African, Asian, and Indian to create more ideal ratios for the face. I'll tell you now most do not "totally" change, ever so slighty makes all the difference thought.
Part 3: Ratio Time
African ESR: (46 - .51) What dafuq .51??? Isn't that dolphin tier???? Nope, not for blacks.
Mukasa (.51 ESR) Beckford (.5 ESR) Staniel Ferreira(.5 ESR)
Give a White, Asian, or Indian this ESR and....
Redditor (.51 ESR) Model Roberto Sipos(.5 ESR)
I know I only provided white guys and said Indians, and Asians will suffer from this too. That's because the typical Asian/Indian Skull has fairly wide cheekbones allowing for their standard averageness to fall within the Caucasian line. Africans tend to have to most high-set cheekbones, but not the biggest.
FWHR 1.8 - 2.01 (This goes for any race). Anything too high yields a brute/ogre appearance and totally f*cks harmony
Measured like this.
Mouth to Nose Ratio (1.3 - 1.6 excluding Asians) (Typical being 1.4-1.6)
This is another ratio that's being misused by P.O.C, and generally everyone.
The reason why 1.3 - 1.6 is fair because not only do men on avg. have wider noses, but P.O.C (Primarilly Africans and Indians) have wider noses. Now I'm not giving anyone a pass due to their race, but even Chico has only a 1.32 - 1.34(Pic Variation) Mouth to Nose ratio, and it doesn't detract from harmony.
Lower/Full Face Ratio is the same (0.62+)
Midface Ratio is rougly the same, slightly altered for wider IPD of Africans(Same for Indians & Asians) (.94 - 1.15)
Mukasa(1.14)
While .94 and 1.14 doesn't really mess with harmony, closer to 1:1 is perfect.
Lower to Upper Lip Ratio (1.3 - 2 Excluding Asians, they need the standard 1.62)
Since Blacks and Indians tend to have fuller lips they are allowed to slight stray from the "Golden Proportion", but anything below 1.3 is D*ck Sucking L*ps...sorry
^^^This is BAD (1.26).
Mukasa at 1.43 amazing
Bizygomatic to Bigonial Width ( 80-90%, Same for everyone)
This is really important I already made a thread why
Chin to Philtrum Ratio (2 - 2.5, Same for everyone)
Anything over 2.6 = Crimson Chin, anything below 2 is likely recessed or Cart Titan Philtrum
All of the angles (Goinial, Canthal Tilt, Cervicomental etc etc. all remain the same)
Someone already made a thread with the ideal angles. (Thank god).
That's it (After writing this, I realize there isn't much salvation for the Asian Race, this was not my intentions and I'll update this if I missed something, but I'm pretty sure I didn't.)
It has come to my attention that a lot of P.O.C are measuring their ratios based of the Caucasian studies. Also, 99% of you are measuring your ratios based on smartphone selfies, Blasphemy.
First I want to address a common misconception that a smartphone using the back camera if sufficient, but in reality it's not. 99% of phones are equiped with Wide-Angle or Ultra-Wide(AKA the demons of portraiture). I'll list the most common phones using these lenses.
Apple: iPhone XR, iPhone 6(All variants), iPhone 7(All Variants), iPhone 8(All Variants), iPhone 11, iPhone 12(+mini), iPhone 13(+mini).
Google: Pixel 3(All Variants), Pixel 4a, Pixel 5(All Variants), Pixel 6.
All of the above phones are only equipped with a Wide-Angle Lens, or an Ultra-Wide Angle Lens. If you've used thses pictures to measure your ratios, they aren't accurate AT ALL.
Pretty much all of the 2019 and later iPhones and Pixels have a Telephoto Lens. Here's the list.
Apple: iPhone X, iPhone XS, iPhone XS Max, iPhone 11 Pro(+Pro Max), iPhone 12 Pro(+Pro Max), iPhone 13 Pro(+max).
Google: Pixel 6 Pro.
If you used the Telephoto Lens these phones than your ratios hold decent merit and are somewhat accurate, but I'm really against using smartphone photos for ratios.
I SHOULD'NT HAVE TO SPEAK ABOUT SELFIES.
So why are these lenses so bad for portraiture???
You are all fammiliar with Lens distortion cause by too close length + bad cam specs, but have you ever heard of
Radial Distortion???
There are 3 types of Radial Distortion, but only 2 are relevant to the topic (Barrel distortion and Pincushion distortion)
These types of distortions are practically impossbile to avoid with Wide-Angle & Ultra-Wide Angle Lenses. This why why every model photographer has 200MM Telephoto Lenses, because they have no distortion.
Alright, now I'm sure a lot of you are relieved to see how shit cameras are. Some people now wonder...What's the truth what do I look like.
Answer is....The Mirror. Yes, this is exactly what you look like. Now for "How Attractive am I?" is up to your self perception.
Part 2: Why P.O.C should'nt be using Caucasian ratios? I thought this was obvious...
The main reason why you can't use ratios for the other race is simply because they do not apply to you. Saying this, if you live in a Western County, it will benefit to have some of the key ratios for harmony(I will post them).
African, Asian,and Caucasian Facial Differences. Don't panic I'll summarize this soon.
Overall with such facial differences, different ratios must be used. So I used about 50 different Faces of African, Asian, and Indian to create more ideal ratios for the face. I'll tell you now most do not "totally" change, ever so slighty makes all the difference thought.
Part 3: Ratio Time
African ESR: (46 - .51) What dafuq .51??? Isn't that dolphin tier???? Nope, not for blacks.
Mukasa (.51 ESR) Beckford (.5 ESR) Staniel Ferreira(.5 ESR)
Give a White, Asian, or Indian this ESR and....
Redditor (.51 ESR) Model Roberto Sipos(.5 ESR)
I know I only provided white guys and said Indians, and Asians will suffer from this too. That's because the typical Asian/Indian Skull has fairly wide cheekbones allowing for their standard averageness to fall within the Caucasian line. Africans tend to have to most high-set cheekbones, but not the biggest.
FWHR 1.8 - 2.01 (This goes for any race). Anything too high yields a brute/ogre appearance and totally f*cks harmony
Measured like this.
Mouth to Nose Ratio (1.3 - 1.6 excluding Asians) (Typical being 1.4-1.6)
This is another ratio that's being misused by P.O.C, and generally everyone.
The reason why 1.3 - 1.6 is fair because not only do men on avg. have wider noses, but P.O.C (Primarilly Africans and Indians) have wider noses. Now I'm not giving anyone a pass due to their race, but even Chico has only a 1.32 - 1.34(Pic Variation) Mouth to Nose ratio, and it doesn't detract from harmony.
Lower/Full Face Ratio is the same (0.62+)
Midface Ratio is rougly the same, slightly altered for wider IPD of Africans(Same for Indians & Asians) (.94 - 1.15)
Mukasa(1.14)
While .94 and 1.14 doesn't really mess with harmony, closer to 1:1 is perfect.
Lower to Upper Lip Ratio (1.3 - 2 Excluding Asians, they need the standard 1.62)
Since Blacks and Indians tend to have fuller lips they are allowed to slight stray from the "Golden Proportion", but anything below 1.3 is D*ck Sucking L*ps...sorry
^^^This is BAD (1.26).
Mukasa at 1.43 amazing
Bizygomatic to Bigonial Width ( 80-90%, Same for everyone)
This is really important I already made a thread why
Chin to Philtrum Ratio (2 - 2.5, Same for everyone)
Anything over 2.6 = Crimson Chin, anything below 2 is likely recessed or Cart Titan Philtrum
All of the angles (Goinial, Canthal Tilt, Cervicomental etc etc. all remain the same)
Someone already made a thread with the ideal angles. (Thank god).
That's it (After writing this, I realize there isn't much salvation for the Asian Race, this was not my intentions and I'll update this if I missed something, but I'm pretty sure I didn't.)