I've seen many people ask questions about Dr. Paul Coceancig's "Coceancig Line" for jaw surgery.
In his words "A vertical maximal aesthetic line from the nasal bone tip, with horizontal Frankfurt plane, can be used as a predictable and simple cephalometric.."
Many users have pointed out that this seems excessive, particularly because this is where he advances the bone to, not the soft tissue.
Here this image shows how he is going to advance all three points to the line:
This is an example of a profile that is recessed according to Coceancig's line, I can agree the chin is a bit small but not ugly:
However, if I advance everything as he does: the chin, the nasal spine, the incisor... AT THE BONE, taking into account a layer of soft tissue over the top....
THEN THIS is an approximate result you would get:
This is the reason I refused to spend $90,000 with Coceancig and probably the reason he posts so few of his results online. He just posts the same 10 cases again and again. I told you he had crocodilemaxxed a patient I met.
The Coceancig shills on here who promote his BS need to think twice. He is correct that IMDO is a great procedure for kids. He is wrong with his "line" that no other surgeon subscribes to, because it just ignores soft tissue and goes full monkey which is not aesthetic for most people.
He also used to post on JawSurgeryForums as "OrthodontistExpert", and was banned because he shilled IMDO and talked about how great he was, and they traced the IP to his area. He also lied about other surgeons not being able to do 3D planning in order to rope people in. See Coceancig's comment in purple and a response from another user in white.
The coceancig line should be renamed the crocodile line.
In his words "A vertical maximal aesthetic line from the nasal bone tip, with horizontal Frankfurt plane, can be used as a predictable and simple cephalometric.."
Many users have pointed out that this seems excessive, particularly because this is where he advances the bone to, not the soft tissue.
Here this image shows how he is going to advance all three points to the line:
This is an example of a profile that is recessed according to Coceancig's line, I can agree the chin is a bit small but not ugly:
However, if I advance everything as he does: the chin, the nasal spine, the incisor... AT THE BONE, taking into account a layer of soft tissue over the top....
THEN THIS is an approximate result you would get:
This is the reason I refused to spend $90,000 with Coceancig and probably the reason he posts so few of his results online. He just posts the same 10 cases again and again. I told you he had crocodilemaxxed a patient I met.
The Coceancig shills on here who promote his BS need to think twice. He is correct that IMDO is a great procedure for kids. He is wrong with his "line" that no other surgeon subscribes to, because it just ignores soft tissue and goes full monkey which is not aesthetic for most people.
He also used to post on JawSurgeryForums as "OrthodontistExpert", and was banned because he shilled IMDO and talked about how great he was, and they traced the IP to his area. He also lied about other surgeons not being able to do 3D planning in order to rope people in. See Coceancig's comment in purple and a response from another user in white.
The coceancig line should be renamed the crocodile line.